Thursday, June 9, 2011

Check your shoulder - Give-Go

I need to pace myself on these posts, or i'll be out of content in a week.  Plus, i'm actually supposed to be working.

Last example for now.  Give Go.

Handler's at the brick with the disc.  Ho-stack setup with 2 dumps and 4 across.  A few cuts get looked off, open side dump's defender sags into the lane.  Handler swings to the poached dump and immediately runs up line for the give go.

Give go handlers in this scenario tend to watch the thrower expecting the disc back.  Good handlers will still take off immediately after throwing the swing, but will take a quick look over their shoulder at the lane while they're in motion.  Check your shoulder!  Why?
  • Your give go cut that will net your team a 5 yard gain might be cutting off a 25 yd gainer from a receiver.
  • There might be a poacher waiting for you in the lane ready to clean your clock.
Again, the idea is to turn toward the action.  A quick peek let's you know whether you should continue your route, break off your cut, or break back toward the middle (or something else).

p.s. If you're a receiver and you've set up a beautiful in cut only to have some stupid handler blindly running into your lane and it's too late to yell, be the bigger person and turn deep.  If they haven't looked already, they're not gonna see you and your gonna get in each other's way.  That might lead to a turnover or collision.  Just turn and run deep and be the continue, but... check your shoulder!  Your defender probably also saw the handler coming and may have decided to poach.  Help your stupid handler out by yelling out the poach.

After the point, let them know what happened, but be gentle.  We handlers don't take criticism well, especially from receivers.


  1. Yes, and: A good handler will have already looked before throwing to the poached dump.

    In theory, you should know to whom the person you've completed a pass to will complete a pass.

    In practice, you can know which options the timing/placement of your pass will present the new thrower with, based on the position of your teammates/opponents but you cannot know for sure what the damn fool will do.

  2. Is a 25yd gain really always better than the 5yd upline handler cut? Which leads to more good things more often?

  3. Well, i'm always hesitant to commit to an absolute statement like "always," but i'd say in most instances, i'd take the 25yd gainer.

    Now maybe your receiver is a turnover machine or your handler is significantly more dangerous catching the disc in motion going up line, or maybe it's crazy headwind and getting an unmarked huck gets you a rare upwinder...

  4. 1. unmarked upwind hucks is what the college men's final needed. instead, they chose "marked after many fakes" upwind hucks". which seemed odd.

    2. glenn went to rutgers. no one could throw except for mio. or did you forget?

    3. the 25yard gainer provides more isolation opportunities for the other cutters, if they're not braindead. the 5 yard upline gainer provides more creative throwing opportunities for the handler. combine the two and throw a dishy off of a 25-yd gainer? you might be in ultimate nirvana. maybe not.